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Do you have a need to grow Bio Grubs indoors and year long?

Yes, where i live the winters are harsh.
Yes, I need more then an active wild population can supply me continiously
No, I'm doing just fine

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Hello from Spain
« on: May 02, 2009, 10:49:41 AM »
In Spain, no biopod is marketed, and I want to raise Hermetia illucens in a room, then sell the larvae, feed for reptiles, I can send you pictures of how I got it now, but I need help, not get new generations.


    
Any help is good for me.

Sorry for my level of English is quite bad

Thanks you

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Re: Hello from Spain
« Reply #1 on: May 02, 2009, 11:02:57 AM »
Hi Spain,

Your English is excused, don't worry.  :)

I don't know of anyone who has mated Hermetia illucens in an indoor room. I believe artificial light is the biggest problem.
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Re: Hello from Spain
« Reply #2 on: May 02, 2009, 11:12:17 AM »
Hello Gw

The room has large windows and light can enter and see if you can help me get a small production, I can draw pictures of how I got it now, but I have no bio here in Spain is not marketed, and use plastic Any help is appreciated

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Re: Hello from Spain
« Reply #3 on: May 04, 2009, 05:10:41 AM »
Spain, I think another factor is the size of the room. BSF mate while flying and I believe they need a space approximately 3 meters by 3 meters. This is only from my memory, I can't find the article I read at the moment. If you have sufficient space and light I think you can possibly see BSF mating indoors.

I'm not sure that a BioPod would be the best device for your purpose. It is designed for outdoor use. You might do better by collecting the eggs and raising them in a more closed container of some type.

I don't have direct experience with any type of system other than the BioPod so I'm only guessing. I would like to see photos of your system if you can successfully mate the BSF indoors.
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Re: Hello from Spain
« Reply #4 on: May 08, 2009, 08:50:06 AM »
Other users in the Netherlands have been successful in using high intensity grow lights commonly found in pet store to raise reptiles. These very bright lights allow for Hermetia Illucens to mate and reproduce in captivity. Can anyone confirm this?

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Re: Hello from Spain
« Reply #5 on: May 08, 2009, 10:50:38 AM »
Hello:

I am trying reptiglo 10.0 UVB light, but I'm not getting results, you have tested with some light.

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Re: Hello from Spain
« Reply #6 on: May 10, 2009, 03:57:52 AM »
Hey Spain,

As I live in Texas, I have not had a reason yet to grow them indoors.

Dr. Craig Sheppard is the expert at raising them indoors in a continuous predictable fashion. You could try to contact him directly, however keep in mind that their entire business model (www.phoenixworm.com) is based around growing them sterile and in captivity for the pet trade and zoos. They are the only vendor that I know off that is able to grow them in sufficient quantities year long and ship to their customers on a dependable and regular schedule. So I know for certain that it can be done... however I must tell you that Craig is a friend of my father and he has spent years of his academic career studying this amazing insect. Without Craig's contributions there probably would be no BioPod today.

Therefor Prota Culture has committed themselves primarily to promote Hermetia Illucens as a means to manage waste. We do not desire to grow grubs for zoo's and pet store. I applaud that Dr. Sheppard's labor has finally paid off for him and his wife.

At the same time, you are more then welcome to discuss any topics related to Hermetia Illucens. Eventually our growing community will find clever ways to utilize them in more and more commercial applications of which "Breeding in captivity" is an import part of its success. How else might we succeed in eliminating the food waste generated by a restaurant in winter time in a place like Boulder, Colorado or Fargo, North Dakota?

Personally, I think it's interesting to learn all about these creature. Please let us know how you succeed in growing them indoors in Spain. I can tell you it CAN be done. However, if you are really targeting the consumer pet industry. Please give Dr Sheppard a call first. I know that if you work something out with him, he can jump start your business in no time.

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Biodiesel
« Reply #7 on: July 12, 2009, 06:20:52 AM »
I have seen mentioned making biodiesel from the BSFL oil.  I been unable find any details about that.  Does anybody have any information?  What is the analysis of BSFL oil?  What sort of rendering is done?  etc. 




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Re: Hello from Spain
« Reply #8 on: July 16, 2009, 12:37:49 AM »
In regards to the Bio-Diesel from Soldier Grubs, i think this is extremely pre-mature. It can be done within the confounds of a laboratory, but will not be a simple backyard operation. There is a company claiming that they do this, EcoSystem. I tried to contact them multiple times and I hear nothing from them. They recently took their website off-line

http://www.eco-system.com/

and when you read their financial statement the company has 6,916 dollars in assets and 267,579 of debt.... they never booked one dollar of revenue and they are looking for investors.

http://theotcinvestor.com/ecosystem-building-business-but-remains-risky-303/#

It think it's a great idea to make biodiesel from insect fats. However, I'm afraid that this company is marketing a technology before it can actually take off. Look at biodiesel from algae: Great results in a Lab, but show me one place where i can go buy one gallon of Algal Oil that is permitted as Biodiesel.

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Re: Hello from Spain
« Reply #9 on: July 17, 2009, 07:25:16 PM »
Thanks for the reply.  The Eco-system approach may well be pie-in-the-sky.

I have a 1979 Mercedes Benz diesel modified to run on straight used cotton seed oil I get from a local restaurant.  I was wondering if an analysis of the BSFL oil would be comparable to cotton seed oil so that it could be used as a fuel directly.

I am to receive my Bio-pod in a couple days and have zilch experience with BSF.  So this may be premature, but I find the BSF a fascinating insect with so many possibilities.  I will get some experience and see where it leads.

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