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Offline BelgianPup

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Re: Breeding BSF in captivity
« Reply #15 on: January 18, 2011, 03:17:01 PM »
"I harvested 17 more egg clusters inside the greenhouse today..."

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Re: Breeding BSF in captivity
« Reply #16 on: January 21, 2011, 10:07:45 AM »

[*grinding teeth*]

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Heheheh.  Sorry Sue.  Didn't mean to make ya jealous.  Now I feel bad. :(  I won't even tell you that today I harvested sixty-two egg clusters.  Nope.  Not gonna mention that.  But if anybody is interested, check out http://www.raisesoldierflies.com to learn about the 62 egg clusters I harvested this morning that I'm not gonna tell Sue about!  ;)

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Re: Breeding BSF in captivity
« Reply #17 on: February 01, 2011, 12:08:18 PM »
I returned to southwest Florida late Friday night after spending a week in southern California attending to a family issue.  Since my return, I have harvested 159 egg clusters from inside the greenhouse, captured photos and video of yet another mating pair, and populated my recently cleaned out BioPod with hatchlings from my incubator that hatched during my absence.

I think the question, "Can Black Soldier Flies be bred in captivity?" has been answered with a resounding "Yes!" ;D

Full story, photos and video on my blog here:
http://www.raisesoldierflies.com

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Re: Breeding BSF in captivity
« Reply #18 on: March 01, 2011, 09:25:23 PM »
Are you SURE it was 159 egg clusters?  Maybe you were tired from traveling and really only had a wimpy 156?

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Re: Breeding BSF in captivity
« Reply #19 on: March 02, 2011, 05:03:10 AM »
Not likely Sue. :-\

I was pretty careful keeping track of daily egg harvesting.  Over the 55 day period between 12/31/10 and 2/24/11, I harvested 562 egg clusters out of the greenhouse tent. 8)

The greenhouse tent is down now and all egg harvesting is going on outdoors.

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Re: Breeding BSF in captivity
« Reply #20 on: March 02, 2011, 09:29:32 PM »
I think Dr. Oliver mentioned something about a 700-egg average per cluster... X 562 = somewhere around 400,000 potential grubs.

I couldn't even keep 500 of them alive without the dog eating most of them...
 :'(  :'(  :'( WAAAAAAHHHHHHHH! :'(  :'(  :'(

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Re: Breeding BSF in captivity
« Reply #21 on: March 02, 2011, 09:41:23 PM »
I think Dr. Oliver mentioned something about a 700-egg average per cluster... X 562 = somewhere around 400,000 potential grubs.

I couldn't even keep 500 of them alive without the dog eating most of them...
 :'(  :'(  :'( WAAAAAAHHHHHHHH! :'(  :'(  :'(

Sue, sobbing uncontrollably

700 per cluster may be what they average, but I sort of figure 500 per cluster and base my BSF egg sales on 400-500 per.  I'd rather egg buyers get more rather than less and be pleased with a generous count:)  But regardless of the count per cluster, 562 egg clusters = a buttload of BSF!  ;D

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Re: not easy
« Reply #22 on: November 26, 2011, 08:00:37 AM »
Hi,

There is a lot of info on this online particularly for cold climates. Breeding in captivity has been done but it ain't easy. I think it requires a greenhouse.
breeding them on a small scale indoor is not that difficult and you don't need a greenhouse to do it - here in Germany are several people breeding them indoor. The key factor seems to be bright light and room to fly. Even there are some people who claim to breed them under low light conditions. But I don't know for how many generations.

Bright light:
1-2000Lux you get with a T8 fluorescent lamp or an energy saving lamp is not sufficient. According to Michael from http://www.terrarienbilder.com ~7000 Lux (what he get's from his Dulux-L) is probably the minimum. Myself, I use a 35Watt CDM-T light for about 3 hours a day. My breeding box is in the cellar and get's only a little bit indirect light from some frog tanks and the three hours from the 35W CDM-T in the evening.


My breeding box:
This photo was taken last year, when I did the first tests. Currently I use a bigger egg laying / maggot box inside the breeding box. Every couple of weeks I remove the egg laying / maggot box and put the content in a bigger maggot rearing box.




The harvest from my indoor breeding box:





There is an article about breeding them indoor:
Bruse,Frank;Meyer,Michael;Schmidt,Wolfgang: Ein interessantes Futtertier: Die schwarze Soldatenfliege (Hermetia illucens) In: Elaphe 1/2010 S.58

According to Bruse et al., you can already breed them in a box of 10 L.

On http://www.terrarienbilder.com there is a thread >>click here<< with a lot of information and also photos how to breed them indoor. With the information from there one should be able to breed them indoor!

Best regards,
Martin

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Re: Breeding BSF in captivity
« Reply #23 on: December 04, 2011, 08:09:38 PM »
The link is only good if you understand German.

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Re: Breeding BSF in captivity
« Reply #24 on: December 04, 2011, 08:54:52 PM »
The link is only good if you understand German.
Google translates it well enough to understand.

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Re: Breeding BSF in captivity
« Reply #25 on: December 05, 2011, 01:43:21 AM »
The link is only good if you understand German.
it would make it easier, yes, but if one is smart enough to find a way to get it (roughly) translated (e.g. babblefish, google translation,...), one can gain a lot of info out of it. And also the photos in that thread are providing some information.  ...just my humble opinion.

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Re: Breeding BSF in captivity
« Reply #26 on: December 13, 2011, 08:43:18 PM »
Tarvus, I tried to check out your link, but just got an index with two listings, and couldn't access either one.  What am I doing wrong?

Sue

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Re: Breeding BSF in captivity
« Reply #27 on: December 14, 2011, 07:43:37 PM »
Tarvus, I tried to check out your link, but just got an index with two listings, and couldn't access either one.  What am I doing wrong?

In another forum Tarvus said his blog was hacked. It has been that way for at least a month or two.
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Re: Breeding BSF in captivity
« Reply #28 on: December 15, 2011, 06:04:34 AM »
Tarvus, I tried to check out your link, but just got an index with two listings, and couldn't access either one.  What am I doing wrong?

Sue

Unfortunately Sue, my website was hacked and totally destroyed back in July.  Hundreds of ours of labor down the crapper because JustHost, my web hosting service, only maintained a 24 hour backup and it was more than 24 hours before I discovered the site had been destroyed. >:(

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Re: Breeding BSF in captivity
« Reply #29 on: December 15, 2011, 07:46:42 AM »
Earthtiger, you are THE MAN!
I happened to have 2 Sylvania 18 W tubes and I managed to find a 55 W Dulux. I set these up in a 60 x 60 x 60 cm partition under my workbench. About 40 new flies emerged from the grub bucket, and 4 days later .... 6 egg clusters!
many thanks

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